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With the passing of one of the greatest Sidekicks of all time Mr. Ed McMahon I think we should honor him by spurring a greatest sidekicks discussion. I would love to hear everyone's favorite sidekick sports wise and/or Hollywood wise.
And remember, I am not asking for the Best Duo's, but the best sidekicks. I think sidekick can best be described as a complimentary figure. As Rocky says, one that fills in the Gaps of our hero. I think the truly great sidekicks are complementary players or characters that know they are a clear #2 to the #1. They are happy taking a backseat to the leader and they know they know their role. IE....Robin Quivers would not be anyone of note if she didn't know how to be Howards right hand wingwomen........If she ever started her own radio show would anyone listen....no....but as Howards sidekick she is great.
My favorite sports sidekick would have to be Johnny Stockton. One could argue he is one of the greatest of all time and he is the all time leader in assists and steals. But, let's face it I think it was his ability to play a complimentary role to Karl Malone that made him so great. He was the scrapper that set the table and then Malone would do more of the dirty work....neither guy needed the attention but they worked well together and thrust each other together into the elite status of the NBA for a long time.
My favorite character sidekick would have to be Chewbacca slightly edging out Paulie. Chewy was awesome. He didn't even have any one liners but his chemistry and complimentary role to Hans Solo made Star Wars just that much better. Do you think Hans Solo would have been so popular as a sarcastic loner who's small signs of sensitivity and humor towards his lifelong wookie friend made each scene.
My Real life vote goes to the Bear and JW.
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Great idea Dinger.
Sports - Roger Marris.
Mickey's sidekick for 7 years and half of the M&M boys. Never wanted any of the spotlight and had a hard time dealing with fame.
Movies - Tough one but I'm going with Spock. Always there for Kirk and has bailed him out of some crazy shit, in return Kirk did bring him back to life.
Notable mention: Wilson the volleyball.
Television - Not even a contest, Kato from the Green Hornet. How could you ever have a better sidekick than Bruce Lee himself. Plus he kicked the shit out of Robin in a crossover episode. He should win this contest based on that alone.
Music - Joe Perry. One of the greatest guitar players ever. Contributes on writing many of the Aerosmith songs. Still with Tyler and the band today.
Real Life - Double S hands down. The guy's been there any time a friend needs him, no questions asked. Well except for one, "Will there be any alcohol?"
Great Call on Spock.....didn't even think of that one.
Awwww....How cute on the Double S refernce.
What, I can't say something nice?
I say nice fuck'in shit about all you cunt bags all the fuck'in time. So go lick a dickcicle, ass hats!
Chewy is the most loyal , dependable sidekick ever. Plus he would be anybody's ass that messed with you.
How bout Dr. Watson to the great Sherlock Holmes , he did all the dirty work.
Scottie Pippen to Mike is undeniable.
As for real life , my large cock .
Jw's and the bears bro-mance is a close second.
My sports one would probably be :
I have to go against the grain and pick Dennis Rodman. He was a true sidekick first for the Pistons, then for the Bulls, then briefly for the Spurs. I always thought Pippen was a little overrated as a sidekick and Stockton is a hall of famer for crissakes. Malone was lucky to have him. How many huge rebounds or stops did the worm get to solidify a championship.
Movies:
Garth Algar. Way funnier than Wayne, he never got the credit he deserved .
TV
Tonto is the winner here hands down with a special honorable mention to my man Bevis.
Music.
Flavor Flav, who definately came into his own recently with Flavor of Love, but I'm talking about his Public Enemy days, when he brought that comic relief to Chuck Ds act.
Joseph Gurbles is the best sidekick.
Awwww you love double s, how cute :)If you love him so much why don't u make him your best man! Say something nice about me jew!
You're a very sick individual, you know that don't you?
You're making 2 speeches now.
1. yes i know and thank you
2. no i'm not!
Really? The Bear?
That is fucked up!
Number one sidekick Keith to Liz!
Ooohhhh!! JDub with a Ginsu sharp comment.
You gonna take that Big Fish?
I didnt even read the whole thing yet but John Stocton was NOT a sidekick! Dude is the all time assist & steals leader! Mail Man Malone is #2 in all time scoring! Both of these guys are #1 guys if they didnt play together in their prime! Who would be Batman & who would be Robin?
ESPN radio 1080 here in the ORL had this very same discussion yesterday but I missed almost all of it. They even said you can't put Stockton & Malone in the sidekick role, but they could be the top Duo ever.
My vote is for Scottie Pippen. He was a badass, but he was no Micheal Jordan either!
Koko, thank you for the compliment!
I am going back to the original post to read the Chewbacca paragraph, then the comments & see if I have any thing to add.
Koko, I believe there is only 1 "r" in Maris, as in Roger Maris.
I've never seen Star Trek so I can't comment on Spock. Chewy is a great sidekick. If he could've spoke, maybe him & Solo could've been a duo.
The Bear was on his own level that none of us want to touch. Sorry J-Dubs, but that guy is wack.
Regs, I see your point on Rodman but he was never a #2 guy. I think you have to be that #2 guy to be considered for sidekick status. Rodman was like the janitor on all those teams...cleaning up the boards & doing the dirty work. This is long ago, but wasn't Dumars the sidekick to Isiah on those Pistons teams...or was it Mark Agguire? (sp?) Who was the lead dog offensively for those teams?
Rodman is definitely a viable sidekick. The definition of a sidekick in my interpretation does not have to mean #2.
And Your argument for Pippen negates your argument that Stockton is not a good sidekick. Pippen is a sure fire hall of famer and was voted top 50 NBA players of all time.......How is he a sidekick in your book but Stockton is not?
I agree Stockton is one of the best of all times, but my point is he knew his role and that was as the table setter and gritty gutty point guard. He did not care who took the last shot, who got the accolades, who got their picture taken, who got credit for the win...only that they won. If Jerry Sloan told him he was coming off the bench he would have accepted it and done it for the betterment of the team. That is my point.
Another good example of a good sidekick is George to Jerry on Seinfeld. Or Turtle on Entourage. They aren't necessarily the 2nd best just a good complement to the undoubtable star or hero.
I agree with your definition for a sidekick Keith. It doesn't have to carry a 2nd best stigma.
Just like my example for Kato. Kato could kick the everliving shit out of the Green Hornet if he ever decided to, but instead he was his loyal friend and partner.
Oh and this is for you Sean . . .
Roger Marrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrris.
Only big douche bags spell check other people's blog posts. Nobody cares. Trust me, you don't want me criticizing your grammer and spelling. For instance you should know there's an apostrophe in the word "didn't," and there should be a comma before a conjunctive like "but." Just FYI, cockknuckle.
I was pointing out the eRRoR because Roger MaRis is on youR favoRite baseball team and you should know how to spell his name. I wouldn't give a Rats ass if you spelled Pujols Pooholes because fRankly, that would just be fRiggin funny.
Also, I know that there is an apostrophe in those words, but I usually leave them out because who here gives a shit whether I use the apostrophe or not?
Nobody answered the question I posed as who would be the Batman or Robin in Stockton & Malone's case.
Pippen was the clear 2nd fiddle with Jordan being the alpha male, ie SIDEKICK! Malone knew his role also which was rebound & score! Pippen's role was play good D, score when Jordan was ON THE BENCH & get out of Jordan's way when he was on the court. I am going to pose this 'Duo or Sidekick' question to my cousin who is a huge Bulls fan to get his take!
In the Batman or Robin question...there is no doubt the Stockton/Malone combo worked so well cause Stockton happily played Robin to Malone's batman. That is my whole point.
Stockton and Malone are two of the best of all time at their respective positions. However, Stockton gladly played second fiddle to Malone as far as team leader etc.....in most sports you can only have one true alpha dog leading the pack. Sure Stockton was a leader in his own right but Malone was his meal ticket and vice versa. However, if you asked Malone to play the Robin role I don't think he would have done it so happily.
Look at what happened when he got older and tried his hand in LA. He got unruly and ultimately did not get along with Kobe at All and thus the Lakers imploded even though they were stocked with hall of famers and tons of talent....but too many guys who were used to being #1's and the alpha dogs forced to take a back seat but they were not able to do so gracefully.
Look at what is going on with Brett Favre. At one time he was the ultimate teamate. Arguably the best QB of all time. In his prime he didn't command alpha dog status. He just got it by default. But, once his skills started eroding he missed that hero status and now he is a mess and keeps going from relationship to relationship until he finds that girl that was a 8 in High School and now is a 5 but if you date her you will surely piss off your Ex and that 5 will vaulted to a 6 or 7. Am I rambling?
Keith you truly have a dizzying intelect.
Sean, that's my point nobody gives a shit. I don't have to know how to spell every single Yankees' name in the history of the team just because I like them. I didn't get that memo.
Do me a favor, why don't you and the Microsoft Paperclip lube up some dictionaries and fuck each other in the ass. Then you can critique my spelling.
Did you really have to bring up Farve? Fuck it, that's how I'm spelling his name from now on. :-)
Malone tried to help coat tail it to a championship along with Gary Payton on Shaq's team. Kobe was the sidekick still.
I'll spell it out this way bout John & Karl; they were so great together that I think of them as a Duo. They were equals. Sure, Stockton may have deferred to Karl, but either one could do the job equally! You could say that Jeff Hornacek was their sidekick.
Pippen isn't equal to Jordan! What would've Pip done without Jordan? Oh yeah, let the Knicks get to the Finals!
Now that isn't very nice Koko. Maris isn't like spelling Saltalamacchia.
Who? I don't want to know about your spanish uncle that molested you as a child, nor do I want to know how to spell his name, ok.
Jarrod Saltalamacchia, the catcher for the Texas Rangers. His last name is much easier to spell than MaRis. I have no spanish in my family...atleast not that I know of.
Enough with this Stockton, sidekick shit. Stockton was a fiery leader who commanded the respect of his teammates. Cross him and you were next to Sloan on the bench. He called the plays and orchestrated a prolific offense for many years. I saw him get in many players' faces on many occassions. You don't become an instant hall of famer by defering to other teammates. Especially if you are a slow, short, white boy.
Give me a break Keith.
Really? nobody agrees with me that Joseph Gurbles is the best sidekick? Come on!
After talking with 2 of my Bulls loving cousins, they say MJ & Pip were a Duo. Guess I have to find another Sidekick to speak about.
Stockton & Malone are a Duo!
GOAT, I've never heard of the Gurbles you speak of.
OK, I didn't mean to turn this into a dual or sidekick argument. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on the free flowing dojo.
I guess if I had to choose a sidekick in professional sports I would want someone with Stockton's qualities.
But, in real life I always wanted a chubby friend. I never had one my whole life.
In every great buddies movie there is always that big chubby fun loving friend in the circle. He seems like he chuckles at all the jokes and most of them are centered around him. He always seems to be wildly loyal and eases the tension of any group just by his mere presence.
He seems like a big teddy bear...but the moment someone from another group messes with anyone from your posse he is the first to spring into action to whoop some ass.
Yeah....that's what I want in a sidekick.......sadly I never had a heavier set friend. Is there still time?
By default, I am your chubby friend. haha. I remember you hammering this story across to the other Dojo members at Gator's on Fri night!
"In every great buddies movie there is always that big chubby fun loving friend in the circle. He seems like he chuckles at all the jokes and most of them are centered around him. He always seems to be wildly loyal and eases the tension of any group just by his mere presence."
You all make fun of me and I laugh about it, then try to make fun of ya guys back.
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