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We recently discussed the possibility of 2011 coming and us having the NFL and NBA ripped from our lives over economic disputes.
Well, Check out what the Evil Empire is doing to baseball and I am very curious to hear the Dojo's support for or against it.
Tom Verducci writes yesterday in SI that Bud Selig and Major League baseball have a committee together considering "Floating Re-alignment" in which teams could change divisions from year to year based on geography, payroll, and get this........Their plans to contend or Not! That is not a typo....Teams could change divisions based upon their plans to Actually compete or just fold up camp at the beginning of the year.
Why You Ask? Here is an example:
For instance the Cleveland Indians could change from the AL Central to play in the AL East where they would not be competing for a playoff spot because they are in rebuilding mode and have a reduced payroll. This way they can accept failure right out of the gate because we all know the AL east is owned by the Yankees and the Red Sox. However, by trading divisions with a team like the Tampa Bay Rays it gives the Rays an actual shot at competing in the AL Central and the Indians benefit because they get 18 lucrative home games with the Yankees and Red Sox instead of only 8 where they actually have a shot at selling some tickets.
Hmmmmm.......Let's see wonder what teams like the Royals, Pirates, and Nationals think about this. In theory it is actually interesting but what kind of message does that send to Royals or Pirates fans every year. I always thought the great thing about Spring Training is Spring brings eternal Hope and every team has a shot at the beginning of the year? Now teams can simply fold up shop at the get go and just collect paydays from the Yankees and Red Sox and the Rich will get richer since all the bad teams will jump to the AL East and the Yanks and Sox will have absolutely no competition at all except with each other.
Another thing out of MLB yesterday had Nomah Garciaparra signing a 1 day contract with the Red Sox so he could retire in a Sox uni. Isn't this the same guy that begged out of Boston in 2004 right before they actually won something???? I don't get it....maybe Spragues can shed some light on this.
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And...I demand a Prosthetic Johnson post as I know he reads the Dojo on a daily basis yet has not contributed in quite some time!
I heard about this but I highly doubt this would happen. And even if it did, it's not the Yankees and Red Sox fault that they like to contend every year and try to put the best product on the field. They are just doing the best they can with the revenue they produce. Unlike many other teams who make pleanty of money that just get's pocketed.
Also, as soon as wind of this got out the Mets immediately called dibs on the new NL GAY Division.
I think switching divisions for the sake of not competing is ridiculous. I’m open for new things but I agree with you, Keith, that this would take the competitiveness away from some of the teams, i.e. Cleveland, Pittsburg, etc. You don’t play to not lose, you play to win. The MLB season could end up boring and disastrous. Although, switching divisions can be a good idea if there was a little more involved, besides not competing for the year and if a team can switch divisions once every so many years. Maybe the teams can play one year and be divided by number of wins, for the following year, in different divisions. For instance, the Nationals last year would be moved to a division with the Pirates, Royals and the Orioles. The league needs to switch it up to make things entertaining and exciting not stray people away. Also what would this do to that teams fanbase? Yes they will play the Yankees and the Redsox 18 times at home but in the end they are not trying to make it to the post season?
Suck it KOKO!
Go ahead and put the yankees wherever you want too! Their still gonna win ALL THE TIME!!! Put em on the fuckin moon, thier still gonna win championships!
March 11, 2010 10:18 PM
That's the point GOAT. Is that necessarily good for baseball?
You can talk all you want on how it is not their fault they spend more. But the fact is it's not like they have great management....they have made some of the worst business decisions in the history of sports with some of their free agent signings....but they have economic advantages over the Pirates, Royals, and many other teams and thus they just have to open the check book and they will compete.
And please don't just reply with the webs version of the fist pump by saying their just AWESOME!
"it is what it is"
The A's and Billy Bean touched on something with sabermathmatics. Nick Swisher is even a product of it and in the end he went to the Yankees and won a championship. You need money in this world for everything. Money doesn't necessarily make you happy, ie. Yankees 2002-2008 but you need it. And Keith, you don't need brilliance when dealing with billions of dollars.
Keith you have become an uninformed broken record when talking about the Yankees.
You just repeat the stupid shit you hear from the morons that call up ESPN radio.
"Oh they spend more"
Spending more doesn't win championships. The Yanks won 2 championships in the past decade. When they won 5 in 6 years in the late 90's it's was becasue of the very special group of core and role players.
What spending more does is give you a chance to win championships every year. And that's what the Yankees management has decided to be. A winning ballclub. How can you say they have bad management. That's a completely absurd statement. Their management is the one who decides to put the profits back into the team, unlike many others, their management is the one that cares more about winning, unlike many others.
Of corse they've had free agent busts, all teams have. People just like to single out the Yankees because they are jealous of them and have a hatred. What about all of the great signings they've made and the countless prospects they've traded away that have never even sniffed the big leagues or at least any real success.
Baseball needs the Yankees very very much. And it needs them exactly the way they are.
What needs to change is the approval process of how the MLB lets in owners. Teams should not be sold to billionairs who are just looking at the bottom line. As a business the MLB needs to be more strict on the type of owners they want in their league.
Stop hating on the Yanks and direct the anger towards the real source. You're own team.
Obviously baseball has a problem or they wouldn't consider this unless they needed to fix it.
Baseball is dying a slow death in America and outside of the Yankees and Red Sox most fan bases are dwindling. Thus, the reason to consider something.
And Prosthetic Johnson just pointed out a major problem......that yes Bill Beane helped the A's sruvive for a little bit...but the team still can't compete financially and thus simply can't last. I bet you there wont even be a team in Oakland in 5 years because they can't Win.....Just like What Adrian told Rocky.....You Can't Win!
Are you going to tell me that Management is the reason the Pirates and Royals haven't fielded a competitive team in over 20 years?????
I'm not saying the Yankees are the devil it's just a matter of keeping a league viable. When one team spends 350 Mill on payroll for a year and another spends 25 Million....it is nearly impossible to expect competition.
It's like that all night tournament we played......would we join it every weekend if the results were the same.....eventually we would just give up and not show up anymore. And our fans would especially stop paying attention.
Yes....Baseball is relevant when the Yankees play......but what about the other 30 some teams.......wouldn't baseball be better if there was actual competion. That's all I'm saying.
And this not a case of small market teams mismanaging their franchises every year....it's a case of they simply can't compete year in and year out...because of the markets they are in put them at a competitive dis-advantage.
OMG! LOL! ROTFLMAO! and other incredibly gay internet acronyms.
Baseball has a problem? Since when? This last decade baseball has put up record numbers for attendance, ratings, and profits.
Just becasue a bunch of people are "trying" to do what's "best" for baseball does not mean it needs to be fixed. Does the NCAA Basketball tournament need to be fixed? Fuck no! Then why all the endless discussion of adding more teams and trying to change it up?
The answer is humans are retarted. We get bored easy and if there is no controversy we'll create some. We thrive on adversity.
Besides the Expos, name another MLB team that has changed cities or went bankrupt in our lifetime.
There are none.
Now do the same with football and basketball. The supposed sports that have it all figured out. The ones with caps. And not to mention way less games to sell. So why is it so hard for them to keep their teams in business?
Baseball is dying a slow death? Not even Bizarro would agree with that statement. That's a complete fabrication.
And do I blame the Pirates and Royals management for not being competative for over 20 years?
FUCK YEAH I DO!
Who else are you going to blame? They don't play the Yanks and Sox every day. A professional sports team does not stay in the cellar year after year unless the mangement is shitty. It's a direct result. They have unbelievably shitty management who's main interests are to turn profits. Stop throwing away all your prospects the second their contract comes up. Figure out a way to be competative. Why have the Marlins won 2 World Series? Why are the Twins always in the hunt? Now the Rays are looking like a power house team. Your going to tell me Tampa Bay is a booming baseball town? No, the management has to change. Keith you should know more about this than anyone as the instant the Brewers office changed they became a relavant team again.
And by the way Big Fish, no one has ever had a $350 million payroll. The Yanks are acutally under $200 this year. Sure it's a lot but $350 is an exageration even for you.
Now go and make an appointment with your proctologist because that new anus I just ripped you, will probably need some ointment.
Whoa...that has..to be the best....take that,toushay,in your face and eat it..I think I have ever read...I can't even type,..I mean..look at all the emphatic..computer emotion I am feeling..Brrrrrr
Bravo Koko...clapclapclap
The unbelievable jealousy that spills out over the yankees is incredible! Of course they have more busts then anyone....THEY TAKE MORE CHANCES! Cause they want to win, cause there management cares about winning and the fans. How can you say the yankees arent good for baseball when every visiting ballpark they go to sells out cause of them! Maybe they should put in place a spending maximum! Its not like these cheap fucks don't have it! There just not spending it so they can buy themselves gold toilet bowls!
What???? Baseball is producing record levels of attendance, ratings and profits???? Now who is the Big Fish?
But apparently somebody was having a bad day because they thought they would try to rip somebody apart for I don't know what reason?
Not once in this post did I say the Yankees are the devil...in fact I stated the exact opposite twice. I was simply pointing out that the system is flawed and thus the reason for Major League Baseball to put together a team to try and fix it.
I wasn't saying down with the Yankees I was simply pointing out that the Yankees have such a superior advantage to other markets that baseball relevancy and ratings are slipping in every market EXCEPT New York and Boston!
The Ratings for the Rays VS Philies World Series barely matched the ratings for a Dancing with the Stars episode. Nobody outside of Philly really even cared about the game.
Now, Koko and his sidekick GOAT will say hey....the ratings for the Yankees world series were a bit higher but what about regular season ratings they are atrocious.
And yes I was just ballparking the salary figue for the sake of an argument and I thought any sane person could tell the distince disadvantage it proves.
However, Check out the actual ratings for the World Series....that you so call claim baseball is producing record numbers.....
1980- 32.1
1986- 28.6
1991- 24
1992- 20.2
1995- 19.5
1996 17.4
2000 12.4
2002- 11.9
2006- 10
2007- 10.1
2008- 8.4
2009- 11
That is a precipitous decline in ratings my Friend.....does not seem to be making record numbers. The only reason 2009 jumped up a little bit is because of the Yankees....so yes Kudos to the Yanks for moving the scale a bit...but quite frankly the rest of the world does not give a shit about baseball EXCEPT for Yankee fans......
Unless you want to rename it the New York/Boston Baseball association then they have to look at the problem and figure something out.
Yes, the Yankees are good for baseball and Yes the Yankees can win games......but their resources are so superior to any other club that it makes it unfair. Is that wrong? No.....but your losing the average fan in other cities and it is only getting worse every year.
So, if it makes you feel good to scream and attempt to rip someone a new A-hole for simply discussing a growing problem in sports then go ahead and rant away so you can make your little brother GOAT say...Good Job...Yea way to go....and yea the YANKEES RULE.......as he fist pumps away at his computer. If that makes you happy then type away.
And your record attendance figures are from Bizzaro Koko World as well:
In 2009 Overall Baseball attendance was down by over 5 Millon Fans throughout 30 Teams according to baseball reference.com
Only 9 of the 30 Teams were up in attendace figures:
Boston, LA, Philly, Florida, KC, and Col to name a few. And Florida and KC were up only becasue they had such putrid numbers to go against it simply could not get worse.
2008 was a similar story down over 1 % from the year prior.
Just the facts Maam....Just the Facts.
And.......Isn't it interesting that one of the biggest baseball fans in the Dojo doesn't really weigh in on baseball talk because he has more or less checked out these discussion because he was born a Pittsburgh Pirates fan.
I would love to hear what the Swami says....if he is as big of a baseball fan as he could be if he is team did't throw in the towel 3 weeks into the season every year.
Would he pay more attention to baseball if there was some type of actual competitive measures put in place?
Sometimes when I hear the "Koko" family respond on here, it takes me back to the famous Jack Nicholson line from "As good as it gets" when he described his ability to write women so well, when he said that he " writes them as a man, and then takes out reason and accountability"
Seriously, to say that the yankees don't have a competitive advantage over other teams because of their payroll is absolutely ridiculous.
The reason they have more resources than the other teams is because of their tv contract. That is it. New York, because it is the biggest media market in the U.S., costs more than Kansas City to broadcast shows locally. Every team the the major leagues has a television contract. The difference is that in New York, the companies who broadcast have to pay more. It has nothing to do with the Yankees. It has to do with New York.
Take any profession in the World and give one company 4-5 times more money than a competitor and see who turns out a better product.
It has nothing to do with attendance either. In the Yankees first year in their new park, in a year that they won a World Series, they only averaged 8 thousand more fans per game than the Brewers for home games and only 4 more thousand per game for road games. They were barely a bigger draw on the road than the lowly Brew Crew in a year they won the WS. Pretty sad.
What a delusional argument!
Swami Sayz:
What the hell! I go away a weekend and everyone is talking a shit on the Pirates. I was going to come to the aid of the Minister, but calling me out like that while on vacation, I say sir, ungentlemanly like indeed. First off let’s face it, I don’t throw in the towel 3 weeks in; it’s more like once they hit the numerical impossibility of reaching .500, my focus wanes. Nonetheless, to fire one across my bow when I am treading not to get noticed is intolerable. Therefore you have wakened the lion and I must attack everyone:
Come on, a bigger market is going to generate larger revenues and allow your club to sway players to your team. If you don’t believe that, then how do top players of other clubs suddenly appear in Yankee uniforms? And don’t think that I feel that this is wrong; it’s just the nature of the beast. But this does place smaller market teams in an uphill battle. This is where greater managers will get more out of team players. Look at Maddon in Tampa Bay. Can we say that teams like the Orioles, Royals, and Pirates suffer from an affliction of troubled management and weak coaches, maybe? But can they spend $200 million on a lineup and be better, yes. And did the Yankees have questionable skill with Joe Girardi as their skipper? But he was able to put the team on cruise control and let a team that was for all purposes built by his predecessor and a monster budget. Just like Mike Tomlin had in Pittsburgh with the Steelers. And yeah, the Yankees are the greatest baseball team in the history in the MLB; just like the Pittsburgh Steelers are the greatest football team in the history of the NFL. I just wish the same coaching prowess could be used in the Pirates club that the Steelers implement. Steelers do not use huge budgets to accomplish greatness.
As for the Brewers, they are in the same boat, an uphill battle to drag the Sox and the Yanks from the top of the hill; just like everyone else.
But Koko, no one said evil or anything like that. And there is not jealously as your talking Muppet G.O.A.T says. Which by the way, when I want a Yankees fist pump, I will give you a call and you can yank on your brother‘s cord hanging out his back. I swear all we get out of you guys is Yankees and gay leagues. Sounds like you guys need to hangout on the couch, tuck under those Yankee snuggies, and give me a review on Boat Trip, which for the record you said was a good movie. (I had to go to IMDB.com just to look it up.)
And Reger, I know who to tell my wife to call when she wants a review on Jack Nicholson’s next chick flick, thanks for that.
But Keith, I can tell you about the interesting corollaries between the Cobra Kai over night tournament and the MLB. From the accounts I heard, the Cobra Kai made some bad free agent acquisitions, and let their top players go to other clubs because of financial reasons. LOL
Thank you for the Post oh great Swami...
and for the record I was not calling you out for anything other than I felt the Dojo could benefit from the perspective of a very wise baseball fan that happens to root for the Pirates.
The only feedback on this issue was from Yankee fans and I felt it would help the discussion greatly by getting the perspective of a fan hailing from one of the markets most bitten by MLB's current issue. Thanks for the insight.
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