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The Senate voted 52-46 against the repeal of Net Neutrality today. For those that don't know, Net Neutrality is one of the ideals Obama backs to protect consumers.
It prevents internet providers, like AT&T, Verizon, Bright House, etc. from giving more bandwidth to "preferred" sites. And by preferred I mean the ones who pay them off. Also it prevents them from throttling, or decreasing customer's bandwidths who use a lot of multimedia sites like Hulu or Netflix, in order to charge those customers a premium as they see fit.
The reason the vote was so close is because it pretty much went right down party lines, with the Democrates finally able to stick together on something.
I bring this up because it's just a microcosm of the bigger problem in this country. Look who was in favor of repealing this law: Big business and of course the Republicans.
So I ask you why? Why, why, why would anyone in their right mind who is not in the upper 1%, vote Republican? They are always against the middle class, they are even always against the upper middle class. They prove time and time again they do not have the people's best interest at heart and will always choose corporations over the people who are the backbone of this country.
Did any of our Republican readers want Net Neutrality repealed? Did you want your Internet providers nickel and dimming you for every byte you use?
I truly believe it has come to the point where honest Republicans must take a good look at the people in government who represent them and ask themselves, is this really what I'm for? Am I for a party who will screw the American people at all cost just so they can disagree with the current president? Are these the people who I truly want running the country?
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Would you say most of these republicans are part of the 1%. I don't think so. Otherwise, they are business men/woman and will most likley profit from these decisions. They don't,necessarily want to screw America, but want to help their pockets. Every man for themselves, skys the limit. This is the whole theory behind the republican party. They are business men/woman. they want to make money and not have the government tell them otherwise.
On another note, I would have voted for Net Neutrality.
Sorry Scotty but they are not business men and women, they are representatives of the people voted into office to do just that . . .
Represent the people!
They are not there to line their own pockets, they are public servants.
And yes they do get kickbacks from lobbyists, who should be outlawed, to make certain votes.
But that's not even the point in this situation. Most congressmen, no matter what party, are guilty of voting to the highest bidder from time to time. But this is about something even more sinister.
The Republicans will not vote anything, ANYTHING AT ALL, that Obama is behind. It's absoultey outlandish that this is happening in our country, half of the congress has decided to act like a grounded teenager and vote against everything that Obama wants even if it would help 99.9% of the people in the country.
They just want to win the next election, no matter how much people suffer, and hopefully the American public is waking up to this and will not go to the polls like mindless trolls and hand it to them on a platter like they did a year and a half ago.
I am a proud Republican because of the philosophy it represents. I think that the Democratic party are filled with lazy losers, who expect other people to do the work for them.
It is easy to cite the top 1% or some program that is not well known.
I believe that success should be rewarded and failure should be punished. I believe that true capitalism revolves around competition, not restrictions.
What made this country great was a second to none work ethic and "do what it takes" mentality.
If I get a bettere education, and work harder, I deserve a better life than a person who is not willing to make the same sacrifice.
America is the land of opportunity, not the land of hand-outs.
Most small business owners are Republicans. Most college educated (research shows) are Republicans. Most Doctors are Republicans.
While most Ambulance chasers are Democrat. Most Minorities are Democrat. Most uneducated are Democrats.
Take your pick.
I misspoke. there is nothing inherently wrong with being a minority. It is what you do with it that matters. Minorities face more obstacles than I could dream about. It is much tougher to make it as a minority, but if you do, you should enjoy the lifestyle.
Aahhhhh . . . too . . . much . . .
ignorance . . can't . . think. . .
Wow Reger, I really hope that was one of your inflammatory posts just meant to get a rise out us. Because that was easily the most unintelligent, ass-backwards thing you've ever written.
Let's put aside the fact that you completely ignored the entire topic of the post because you know there's absolutely zero way to defend voting against net neutrality.
And if you're going to stereotype the Democratic party as "lazy losers," then the Republican equivalent is "racist morons."
And yes it's easy to cite the top 1%, because it's obvious. Just because the answer is easy, doesn't make it any less true. The Republican party protects the top 1% at all costs no matter what damage they cause the middle class. This is not a theory, it's been proven time and time again. You can cite case after case. If this is acceptable to you and you're ok with voting against your own best interest then fine, but you can't logically expect the rest of the country to fall in line.
And did you actually say that "failure should be punished?" Damn man that's some Nazi shit right there. So a family that is not considered "successful" because they struggle for every penny and will never make more than $50K for their household should be punished? Even though they are law abiding citizens, put their kids through school and are valuable members of society and the economy, they should not be afforded good health care, be taxed at an unfair rate, and not have access to social programs, right? Because they are not your definition of "successful."
Let me let you in on a little secret . . .
THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT A BUSINESS!
It's here to provide and protect the people.
And most educated are Republicans!
AaAAHHHahahahahahahahahahahhaah!
KNEE SLAPPER REGS! That was a good one. Where do you get your information, Fantasyland.com?
Because when I see the Republican rallies and people scared that Obama is going to take away their guns because he's actually a Muslim terrorist, I immediatley think Mensa student.
Not to mention the fact that one of the most oppressed programs under any Republican leadership is always education. Our state is a prime example.
And I don't buy that you mispoke about minorities, you just edited, there's a huge difference.
First of all, I was creating a list of what groups typically vote a certain way and Minorities, in general, percentage wise, typically vote Democrat. When I took a second look at the post, I could see, based on the other groups listed, how my comments could have been taken as a negative towards minorities. So I wanted to make sure that I did not offend anybody. Any other thought or opinion or insinuation is 100% false.
As for other areas, I just have been hearing a lot about the top 1% lately and pretending that this is some evil society because they want to keep as much of their money as they can. You have all of these Occupy Wall Street nutjobs protesting (Which actually is funny because a large portion of these people have $500 iphones and ipads, but yet they are protesting against greed and excess)It is being perceived by these groups of liberals that you are some kind of monster if you do well financially.
And the $50,000 family that you cited is great, because they do the best that they can, and if they live within their means, they get by. They are not relying on other people and have pride in what they do.
I will be very clear about this...I don't think ANYONE should pay a high tax rate. Not rich, not poor, not middle class, not upper middle class, nobody!
You act like it is so horrible to say that I think everyone should have more money and buying power. It is the government that is full of wasteful spending and corruption. And the bigger the Government, the more waste and corruption occurs.
Finally, a lot of my "loser" being punished venom has to do with something personal that just occurred. Zac and Zeke's biological father has not worked since May of 2010 when he was fired for stealing money (not downsized). He has been receiving unemployment ever since (18 mo.) and really has shown no desire to find work. Because of this situation he has only provided a small fraction of the child support that he is required to pay. However, he cannot lose any parental rights because of this and basically has been totally demanding and unreasonable. He demands that I have no say in what goes on with the kids, but also demands that I pay for whatever it is that he decides. If I don't, he acts like I am preventing him from seeing his kids. Amongst other things.
I do feel bad for good people who are having a hard time, but there are way too many bad people taking advantage of the system. This has to stop.
I believe the term is "Freudian Slip"
The fact that you listed minorities as voting Democratic in the first place suggest that there's something inherently wrong with that group. What else would be the purpose of pointing it out?
And no one is saying the top 1% is an evil society Regs. You really have to stop skewing every single thing. What is absolutely intolerable is steering the entire economy and government to favor such a small and self-sufficient group.
So funny that now the Occupy Wall Street people are the "nutjobs." So now you're doing the same exact thing you critized all the liberals for doing with the Tea Party.
And a just because you have an iphone, doesn't mean you're even close to wealthy or greedy. I have one and last time I checked I'm neither of those things.
You don't even know what those people are protesting, you just get your talking points from what ever bias source and regurgitate it.
They are not just protesting against the Wall Street institutions who were left unregulated and responsible for a lot of our economic troubles, but they are protesting against the government as well. They want a fair tax system, they want public option health care, they want a jobs programs, they just want the deck to be stacked fairly.
You bitch about the Yankees having an unfair advantage. Well that's a silly game where nobody goes hungry if you lose. In real life, that system is unevolved and has dire consequences, yet you seem to defend it. So ok for life but not for baseball right? What kind of morals are those?
And yes you are very clear about your tax rate. It's also very clear that you do not understand percentages too well.
If someone makes a $1,000,000/year and their tax rate is say 30 percent just for argument sake. They're going to be very, very ok with their $700K.
Now the $50K/year family, well now they're down to $35K/year. FOR THEIR WHOLE FAMILY! You can't just tax everyone at the same rate, it's just fucking stupid.
In order to tax everyone at the same rate you'd have to change costs of living at the same declining scale. But the $50K family has to pay the same amount for gas, electric, water and food as a $60K, $80K, or 100K family. The lower income families are the ones who need to keep more of their money, not the upper 1%.
And you also simply can't just drop the tax rate to something low enough for everybody like 10-15%. The government wouldn't be able to operate.
Is there wasteful spending in the government? Of course there is on both sides of the aisle. Defense being the #1 culprit. But I love how government is big, greedy, and untrustworthy, but you'll gladly trust your livelihood with a corporation. Because none of them have ever tried to screw over the American public right? What a joke, at least you can vote out representatives in government, corporations just run rampant left unchecked. Our current economy is living proof of that.
And I'm sorry you're having trouble with the kids dad, that must really suck. But you've got to know that punishing law-abiding citizens for those that seek to take advantage of the system is always wrong, no matter how much you'd like to punish the assholes. The higher percentage is still filled with good, honest people, it's just that you don't hear from them because they are simply living their lives. The 6 o'clock news isn't going to start off their broadcast with "Local man pays bills on time for 7th straight year."
Jerkoffs are just louder and more entertaining.
WANNNABEES !
I swear I meet so many people who live there lives as liberal humans yet in order to feel like they are above the poor they side with intrests of the very rich.
This way they dont look bad to all there rich friends.
Wouldnt want to do that , nooooo.
These higher ups dont give a shit about any of us, but it is a sadder case to kiss these guys asses.
Nice touch on the minority thing Rob .
Im not calling you racist,
but its funny you never meet a racist who is a liberal.
only conservatives.
I think some loosers just get off feeling they are above everybody and that there shit dont stink,
so they align themselves with the side that feels that way to evrbody else.
Including there supportes !
Jokes on the wannabee zombies !
Again you guys have way too much faith in our politicians,
they operate in the intrests of themselves.(both parties)
The republican debates have been hilarious so far I must admit.....
Ummmmm whats the third one , eap oh no not that one, ummmmm.Yea cut education lets build more rockets!
Ummmmmm he has done horrible in Libya ,ohh no not Libya, wrong country. Ohhh I forgot what country.........silence. lol
It is not a case of being rich or poor. At least not to me. My views on politics have nothing to do with income and really have nothing to do with the candidates themselves.
I personally feel that when rich people have confidence in their investments and feel comfortable with their income, the trickle down effect helps everyone. What causes our nation to plummet is when these people sit on their money causing industries to grow stagnant. It is really very simple. Rich people will always be rich, but if they spend more money, it helps create jobs.
It works at many other levels too. Most of us (myself included) have had to cut back on things over the last 3 years. These things usually fall under some sort of entertainment. Whether it means not going out to dinner as much, or not taking a trip, the people at the restaurant, or Hotel are affected negatively.
I have said it before and I will probably say it again, the key to restoring the economy is restoring consumer confidence because that fuels every industry from the top down.
It is not extending jobless benefits, it is not forming a national healthcare system. It is being stable. It is telling someone making %30,000 that if they work hard and do a good job that they will make $35,000 next year, and $40,000 the year after that, because our industry is stable and growing. We have none of that right now because everything is in turmoil and that falls on the commander in chiefs shoulders.
Does anybody need a new pair of shoes? Reger, you seem you have a nice job. Help push the ecomomy around.
Reger you can't just look at the blue sky, call it green, and then say "Well that's what I believe."
The trickle down effect doesn't work, has never worked and will never fucking ever work!
It didn't work in the 80's and it's not going to work now. If it did work, then why isn't it working now? Taxes on the rich have been the lowest in the country's history for a decade now. So where's the confidence and spending. I'll tell you where it is, China.
Corporations are not going to make jobs here when they can get the job done for a small fraction of the price. And no we as a country cannot compete with $0.90/hour wages no matter how much you think we should drop taxes on big corporations. The number will never be low enough. What we need are more regulations and higher taxes on companies that do export all of their work to foreign countries. And then reward the ones that make their products here and employ American workers.
You can only do that with more regulations, not less.
And if you want to restore consumer confidence, then give the damn middle class more money to spend. They are the fuel to the economy, not the rich. You're right, people spending money on entertainment and goods is a big part of getting the economy rolling again, so what group do you want spending that money? The tiny 1%, or the 99%? Even with Republican logic you should be able to get the answer to that question correct.
Cut taxes on the upper middle, middle and lower classes and raise them on the top 1%. And not drastically, just back to the Clinton era, you know when we had Billions of dollars in surplus before the fake president who didn't win his election spent it all on a fake war.
And really STOP blaming Obama for anything at all, when your party has made it impossible for him to pass anything.
And I love how you continue to just ignore the Net Neutrality issue that this post was originally about. Please defend the Republican stance if you can even find a skewed version of reality that will work for you.
You know, Koko, sometimes you make such little sense that it is hard for me to even respond. The people losing their jobs in this country are not people that are well off. It is factory workers at factories that have shut down or retail workers at stores that have closed or victims of corporate mergers because the businesses can't afford to function apart anymore.
Having overseas factories is not a new phenomenom. There is no evidence of it increasing at all. Between the years of 1982-2007 the economy in general was doing very well and I'm pretty sure companies were using cheap, 3rd world labor during that time period.
The reason these car factories (and other industries) are closing is because not as many people can afford new cars anymore, and the ones who can are sitting on their money. Its the same reason why you see huge car dealerships vacant.
The reason why retail stores and big retail chains (circuit city and others) are closing is because people aren't buying their products and investers are not investing in their company as much as they used.
To show the trickle down effect in real terms. My father used to own a machining corporation in Milwaukee (he recently sold it so he could retire). His biggest customer was Harley Davidson. Harley does a lot of outsourcing to local companies. Harley obviously is a huge, multi national company. My dad's, American Manufacturing, is not (12 employees). Because not as many people are buying motorcycles during this economic downtime, Harley made the decision to consolidate factories (100 jobs lost) and discontinue outsourcing, in order to produce the parts on site. Because of this, Amer. Mfg was forced to lay-off 2 of the 12 employees (first layoff in 60 years). Harley Motorcycles are considered a luxury item rather than a neccessity item. So because people who are well off with extra money are not buying a nice new motorcyles, 102 people (at least) don't have a job.
And I don't care that much about net neutrality. If its fair for everyone, I support it.
Yeah that's right Regs, I make little sense. Sorry I've made it so hard for you.
Just keep on marching to that tune man. Yeah you're right. The Republicans know exactly what needs to be done. Even though 8 years of deregulations at an unprecedented level and the lowest taxes the top 1% has ever seen has put us in the worst economic downfall since the Great Depression.
Forget that manufacturing in this country is at an all time low.
Ignore that without Obama's actions we wouldn't even have General Motors anymore.
Live in a Bizarro world where the reason that big chains like Circuit City have closed is because of lack of sales instead of the real reason which is they can not compete with prices from Wal-Mart and online.
And great stance on Net Neutrality. You don't care, so it must not be important, meanwhile your party would love to give more power to big conglomerates and limit the information people have access to. How Patriotic!
But yeah, just keep on keep'in on right? It's going to work soon! I'm a believer now. In fact I'm even going to vote for uh . .
. . . uh
What's his name . . .
Oh well fuck it, I'm a Republican now, I don't need to remember small insignificant things like names, places or issues. Facts are dumb.
I'm glad I turned you. Welcome to Romneytopia.
Here is a quick economics lesson (my 2nd major)Manufacturing is down because of supply and demand. If there is nobody out there buying, there is no demand and therefore no need to create supply.
All the groups I named and examples I gave are middle class people making average incomes. These are all people that managed to "survive" over the last 30 years with Repulicans in office for 20 of them just fine.
My god there just isn't enough dirt in the world for you to bury yourself even further is there?
You actually wrote "survive," and yes you put quotes around it to try and take the edge off, but it's the word you chose because it's how you think.
As long as people are just getting by, they should shut the hell up, right?
Sorry dude, not good enough!
If we're supposedly the greatest country in the world, then we have to actually prove it by example, until then it's just hyperbole.
And manufacturing is not down in this country because of demand, it's because all the corporations make their products elsewhere. That's the result of leaving big business completely unregulated for 8 straight years.
We should be leading the world in alternative energy, we should be creating new infrastructure and we should dump a shit ton of money into education.
There isn't even a lack of jobs in this country like most would think. There's a ton of jobs available. But qualified candidates . . . well no, sorry we don't have many of those because our education system is shit and even when you do graduate you have a pile of debt to start out your life.
But hey, cut taxes for the top 1%, that'll fix it.
YEAH!!!!
You are right Koko. Take away more of rich people's money and build a high speed light rail. With those 2 things along with net neutrality, everything in the world will be just hunky dorey.
No you're right Regs, those two things wouldn't fix EVERYTHING!
So let's not do ANYTHING at all!
How progressive your mindset is. If you were in charge of the country back in its inception, we wouldn't even have railroads yet.
"Why do poor people need to travel? They should just stay put and concentrate more on their jobs."
The overwhelming problem in this country is that we let the perfect become the enemy of progress.
So what you are saying is that the reward for making it in this country should be to give back 40% of what you made, so the government can squander it? But at least you won't have to drive your car the 1 time per year that you go to Tampa. Wow, what a country.
It's ok dude, you're obviously happy with the economy how it is. Even though you're not part of the top 1%, you just go ahead and keep on being a good little Republican, voting against your own interest.
That is what they count on, but I guess the Clockwork Orange brainwashing is just too deep.
Let me ask you, do those eyelid clips hurt as much as they look like they do?
You are right Koko, I am not in the top 1%, but it is definitely possible that if I continue to move up, that I will be some day. And if/when that day occurs the last thing that I am going to want to do is give 40% back.
I earned it and I want to keep it. If I decide to help out a friend who is struggling, that is my decision. If I want to donate money to a charity, that is my decision.
Your biggest misconception is your view of who makes up this 1% that you keep referring to. Most of them are people that have have forged a career over many years of school and working their way up the ladder to their current position. We are typically not talking about trust fund kids, or athletes, or actors, or singers.
And your biggest misconception Regs is that you think only rich people are the ones that worked hard to make a career. Millions of people work hard, real hard, their whole life and never even crack the top 40%. But I guess they are not as important because they don't have corporate jobs and drive nice cars. They should still just "survive" as you like to say and go without social programs that can enhance their quality of life and pay way too much in taxes.
I hope you do make it to that top 1% one day.
Also, I hope you take full care of all your own situations in life. I would prefer you never call the police or fire department, use public sanitation services, bring in private doctors (an no using stem cells), private education, stay away from public parks or other forms of recreation funded by the tax payers and pretty much stay secluded from society in general.
Since you don't want to contribute to an overall functional society and are only concerned with what you have, it only seems fair that you keep to yourself.
In fact, everyone that has the same kind of non-progressive, sellfish, anti-society line of thinking should just move to an empty state like Wyoming and run it any way you want.
Leave the rest of the country to people who actually care about everyone in the society they live with and let us evolve as human beings.
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